defense secretary leon panetta addressed the situation today. what can you tell us about that today? britain and the united states was unaware the raid was actually happening? >> that's one sort of slightly disturbing aspect of this. david cameron, part of the statement he made, was he was in almost constant contact with algerian prime minister. spoke with him four dimes in the day leading up to the situation to free the hostages. coordinating with the leaders of other countries involved and the united states among them. and david cameron has been talking to president obama about probably sharing their confusion about the situation on the ground, and that very remote part of algeria. leon pan etta has come out, saying he and the rest of the defense department is working around the clock to bring the situation to a happy ending. >> and matthew, another question, and i apologize if you already addressed it, but i'm trying to read the latest details coming out. do we know the number of americans? any clarity on that? >> no, we don't is the short an